Talking Stage
The early phase of getting to know someone romantically, before a date, a label or any promise of exclusivity.
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The talking stage is the early phase in which two people text or call, flirt and see whether they want to take things further. It sits between the first contact and an official relationship. There is no label, no promise of exclusivity and often no clear plan.
In the talking stage people usually message a lot, may have a first date or two, and might still be talking to others at the same time. How long it lasts varies widely. It can be a few days or a few months.
Signs you’re in one
- You message daily or often, but have met rarely, or only once.
- Nobody has said “exclusive” or “boyfriend/girlfriend”.
- You don’t know if the other person is also talking to someone else.
- You’re getting to know each other: interests, work, humour, plans.
Example
You: I enjoy talking to you. Want to meet for coffee this weekend?
Her: I’d like that. Saturday afternoon?
A good talking stage moves from messages to a real meeting quickly.
Making it work
- Meet early. Text chemistry and real-life chemistry are different. Aim for a first date within a week or two. Our guide on what to talk about on a first date helps.
- Be open about your interest. You don’t need an ultimatum, but a clear “I’d like to see where this goes” works better than guessing.
- Don’t confuse volume with depth. Many messages feel close but say little.
- Set a quiet checkpoint. After a handful of dates, talk about what you each want. This is the point where exclusivity and labels come up.
When it goes wrong
A talking stage that never ends in a date can turn into breadcrumbing or a situationship. If one person wants more, say so. If the answer is vague for weeks, treat that as an answer.
For the first message that starts a talking stage, see our Tinder openers and Tinder pick-up lines.
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- Situationship A situationship is something between friends and a relationship.
- Zombieing Zombieing is when a person who vanished from your life suddenly comes back to life.
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- Beta Male "Beta male" is an informal label for a man who is seen as passive, shy, approval-seeking or easy to push around.
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- Inner Game Inner game is the mental side of dating: your confidence, your beliefs about yourself and women, your self-image and the way you handle…
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- Daygame Daygame (also written day game) means meeting and approaching women during the day: on the street, in parks, shops, cafés, libraries or on…
- Outer Game Outer game is everything other people can see and hear: how you look, dress and move, your voice, your body language, what you say and how…
- Peacocking Peacocking means wearing something eye-catching on purpose, for example an unusual hat, a bold scarf or striking jewellery, so that people…
- Hot Babe HB stands for Hot Babe (or sometimes Hunny Bunny) and refers to an attractive women.
- Banter Banter is playful back-and-forth talk: light teasing, jokes and quick comebacks that both people enjoy.
- Cold Reading Cold reading is a way of making statements about a person that seem highly personal but are in fact general or based on clues you can see.
- Disqualifier A disqualifier is a playful remark that jokingly "rules you out" as a match, or her as one for you.
- Negging Negging means giving a woman a backhanded compliment or a mild put-down, so that she feels slightly unsure and starts to look for your…
- Push-Pull Push-pull means alternating between closeness and playful distance in a conversation: a compliment or warm moment (the "pull"), followed by…
- Day 2 Day 2 is the second meeting with a woman after you met her for the first time, for example at a bar, in the street or through friends.
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- Kiss Close A Kiss Close or KC is when a man successfully kisses a girl he is attempting to seduce.
- Ejecting / Premature Ejectulation Premature Ejectulation, or 'Pre-Me' is the term given to a guy who exits (or, 'ejects') from an interaction with a girl much too soon.
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- Real Social Dynamics Real Social Dynamics, usually shortened to RSD, is a dating-coaching company based in Los Angeles.
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- Fuck Buddy A Fuck Buddy (FB) is a girl that a man enjoys frequent but casual sex with no real desire for making the relationship monogamous or…
- Long Term Relationship A long term relationship "LTR" is typically when a man and woman pledge exclusivity to one another.
- Let's Just Be Friend “Let's Just Be Friends” is something that a girl will say to a guy with whom she has no interest in pursuing a sexual relationship.
- Flake A 'flake' is the term given to a girl who does not get back in touch with you after either the initial meeting or an exchange of messages.
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- Breadcrumbing Breadcrumbing means dropping small bits of attention, just enough to keep someone hoping, without ever following through.
- Catfishing Catfishing means building an online relationship under a false identity. The "catfish"
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- Gaslighting Gaslighting means getting another person to doubt their own memory, judgement or feelings.